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CR: The US was paying for the weather long before Al Gore and Paul Ehrlich were lying about AGW or an Ice Age. That isn't the money we are referring to and you know it. Regarding James Hansen, he got caught taking money under the table to the tune of over a million dollars. That is illegal and he is under litigation for that right now. Your greenies hands are dirty, that is for sure, but what we are referring to is on top of the table. Quote by Tom McElmurry, meteorologist, former tornado forecaster in Severe Weather Service: “Governmental officials are currently casting trillions down huge rat hole to solve a problem which doesn’t exist....Packs of rats wait in that [rat] hole to reap trillions coming down it to fill advocates pockets....The money we are about to spend on drastically reducing carbon dioxide will line the pockets of the environmentalists....some politicians are standing in line to fill their pockets with kick back money for large grants to the environmental expert
CR: So you can copy and paste the Constitution. That still doesn't address the discretionary spending. Go back and study the subject. Notice also the Constitution says congress will run the Post Office and currency. Those two were privatized. Which is against the Constitution. So, again, study about Discretionary Spending. When disaster strikes somewhere in the world and we give money to that country, do you think congress voted on it? Not directly, since there isn't enough time, and it is up to the discretion of the Executive branch to dole out those funds. It is a good thing if it is not used for political purposes.
Gary F: <CR --- is right. If Mann and Hansen said they did not believe in AGW, Deniers would stampede each other rushing to suck their *****.> Those kinds of actions are done by the greenies. I have my wife of 48 years and that is enough for me. True scientists like me only follow the truth. We don't have an agenda like you. You by your statement only proves that you put your agenda above science.
CR: <I don't know about you, but if someone were to offer me a million dollars at the end of my career if I were to lie throughtout my career, my first thought would be that their offer was a lie.> What he did was unethical and illegal. Are you defending him? It was not just an offer, as you allude to, but an actual cash exchange. A knowledgeable person would know the difference.
The Warmists' are funded from the taxpayers to the tune of hundreds of BILLIONS of dollars. Skeptics get NO money from any government. It's all private funding and it doesn't add up to even 1% of what the Warmists/Alarmists get. Yet the Warmists on this site have the gall to screech about BIG OIL and the Koch brothers. -----------------------
Let's see. One side has to pay for satellites. Is Roy Spencer a greenie? to take the temperature of the planet, we need over a thousand weather stations. Many weather stations are at airports. Is the air industry run by greenies? On the other hand, just making stuff up, like your lie about Obama giving the UN $100 billion, which is not possible without congressional approval, is pretty cheap. The oil industry is not short of money. James Hansen and Michael Mann just have to recant to bunethical billionaires. <There is 31,000 scientists who don't believe in AGW> Wrong. Having a science degree is the only requirement to sign the Petition Project. Not everyone with a science degree has made a career in science. learn about how government works> mississippi "Section. 8. "The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the "Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States; "To borrow Money on the credit of the United States; "To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes; "To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization, and uniform Laws on the subject of Bankruptcies throughout the United States; "To coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, and fix the Standard of Weights and Measures; "To provide for the Punishment of counterfeiting the Securities and current Coin of the United States; "To establish Post Offices and post Roads; "To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries;" US was paying for the weather long before Al Gore and Paul Ehrlich were lying about AGW or an Ice Age. That isn't the money we are referring to and you know it.> Money for the weather is exactly where the money is going. Al Gore and Paul Ehrlich are not climatologists. <Regarding James Hansen, he got caught taking money under the table to the tune of over a million dollars.> I don't know about you, but if someone were to offer me a million dollars at the end of my career if I were to lie throughtout my career, my first thought would be that their offer was a lie. And where in the above statement do you see me defending any kind of unethical or illegal activity? I'm saying that I don't believe that his younger self would have been stupid enough to accept an offer to recieve money decades later for lying. So, someone paid him over a million dollars. You should look into the details before ASSuMEing to much. Was it a lifetime achievement award? A research grant? The price he got for his house in a booming real estate market? <Quote by Tom McElmurry> BB <Successful grant recipients must demonstrate that their research will find reasons to blame Man for something called "Global Warming" and/or prove that "Global Warming" actually exists.> I'll keep that in mind the next time I request a grant from Senator Inhofe or the Heartland Institute.
The answer should be technological geniuses. After all, funds are just a measure of the added value. Who adds the most value to our existence?
Since there are only a handful of true skeptics compared to the thousands of scientists who accept AGW, it only makes sense that the majority of research funding go to those who are actually conducting research and contributing to our knowledge of the earth's climate system. Deniers receive the greater portion of pure political funding because, after all, theirs is a purely political (and to some extent blatantly anti-science) agenda. ==== edit -- The fact you blindly accept a bogus list is not just stupid, it contradicts your stated objection to another concept you do not understand, scientific consensus. In typical Denier hypocritical fashion, you present as evidence the exact same kind of thing you criticize others for doing. Maybe if you actually knew something about science, you would not be so easily fooled by such stupid tricks. ===== CR --- is right. If Mann and Hansen said they did not believe in AGW, Deniers would stampede each other rushing to suck their *****.
As long as fake skeptic donors do not wish to reveal their funding and to which fake skeptic organizations, it is impossible to tell.
The ones with the valid arguments. If you had a valid argument you would get funding too, but you're just an ignorant paranoid moron
The skeptics get far more funding from the big corporations like coal and oil than any politically funded public money.
Greenies...by far are sucking up the vast majority of taxpayer-provided welfare/'grant' money. Successful grant recipients must demonstrate that their research will find reasons to blame Man for something called "Global Warming" and/or prove that "Global Warming" actually exists. Buying such research beefs up government's excuse for taxing everything in sight. I am deeply saddened by the large number of so-called 'scientists' who have pimped themselves out to this dispicable hoax All about fame and fortune.
Greens...by a ratio of 3500:1