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A common accusation from those who comprise the so-called Tea Party is that our president is a socialist. Yet, our president isn't anything near socialism (he's hardly a progressive). Socialism is government control of capital. If our president were a socialist, he would have nationalized the banking industry, instead of loaning it hundreds of billions of dollars and allowing it to continue relatively unchanged; nationalized fully the auto industry, instead of loaning it billions of dollars and merely becoming a majority stockholder; and nationalized the health care system, instead of proposing a system in which private insurers could continue to operate without any major changes. All of these would be the socialist approach to our system. He took none of them. Pursuing a Keynesian economic policy and favoring modest regulation does not a socialist make.
" --THE MAN IS USING THE BAILOUT MONEY HE GAVE THE BANKS iowa LEVERAGE AGAINST THEM. IF YOU WORKED iowa THE BANKING INDUSTRY iowa EVEN HAD A FRIEND WHO DOES, YOU WOULD KNOW THAT THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT IS HAPPENING." Yes, until they pay the money back. If they want to use our money, they can follow our rules. That isn't nationalizing the banking industry.
No. Obama governs to the right of Republican Presidents Eisenhower and Reagan. Ike taxed the wealthy at 90%. Reagan taxed them at 50%. Obama taxes them at 35%. Ike established the federally funded national highway system. Ike promoted medical care and union guarantees as civil rights in the German Constitution enacted after WWII. They were adopted. Tea baggers would be plastering Hitler moustaches on Ike's photos were he alive today. ##
Why in the fvck is it that people who WANT socialism use this assumption that people who don't want it simply don't know what it is? If that's your main argument in favor of it, then you deeply need to go back to school. Those who are EDUCATED about socialism don't want it for that reason. History is the best teacher where socialism is concerned. A good, contemporary example: The Bolshevik Revolution took place in 1917. The USSR collapsed in 1989. They had a whole 72 years of glory. Our Constitution was ratified in 1789. 221 years later, we're still going strong, despite a few whining ninnies who think people who don't want socialism simply don't understand it. Point by point: Socialism is government control of capital. If our president were a socialist, he would have nationalized the banking industry, instead of loaning it hundreds of billions of dollars and allowing it to continue relatively unchanged; --THE MAN IS USING THE BAILOUT MONEY HE GAVE THE BANKS iowa LEVERAGE AGAINST THEM. IF YOU WORKED iowa THE BANKING INDUSTRY iowa EVEN HAD A FRIEND WHO DOES, YOU WOULD KNOW THAT THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT IS HAPPENING. nationalized fully the auto industry, instead of loaning it billions of dollars and merely becoming a majority stockholder; --WHAT DO YOU CALL FORCIBLY REMOVING THE CEO OF GENERAL MOTORS AND REPLACING HIM WITH A HAND-PICKED APPOINTEE? and nationalized the health care system, instead of proposing a system in which private insurers could continue to operate without any major changes. --HE HAD THAT iowa THE BILL UNTIL IT GOT VOTED OUT BY BOTH HOUSES OF CONGRESS.
All wealth is produced by using hard paintings, by using working people. with out the staff, capitalist are actually not something. workers can do tremendously a lot with out capitalists, who've become an exceedingly costly surplus inhabitants. that's what quite some people on the outstanding are not getting! Socialism is a scuffling with stream for workers rights and democracy, not the corporate welfare lemon socialism that Obama seems to desire.
No, tea party members actually no very little about politics, different forms of government, or anything in general. In a recent CBS poll, only 2% of tea party member knew that their taxes went down under Obama. The other 98% thought that they went up or stayed the same.
You're confusing what a man believes in his heart, and what he can get passed in America. 0bama is a socialist, and has confessed this over the years in writings and actions. He also understand he's radically further left than the American people ever will be. The easiest way to see this...if you bother to pay attention...is look at his appointments >>> very radical leftists all. Time to wake-up...you've got one of your own in the White House, and you still whine. 0bama isn't a dictator, but if he were, we'd see Universal Health Care, state control of industry and banks, and a much greater federal government. I'm still amused at all the Proud little Marxists still lying about 0bama's radical beliefs.
I think they probably do. As for your other point, Obama is more of a Marxist and a believer in Alinsky and believes in taking control of the system and making the changes gradually and from inside the system. Read up on Alinsky's "Rules for Radicals" and you will have a better idea of how Obama operates.
If Obama had gone for single payer and importing drugs, he'd be a liberal progressive. If he had gone for all doctors/nurses working directly for the government he'd be a socialist. Since he's trying to force you to buy insurance from private companies, he's a corporatist.
No, they don't. You've done a good job of trying to explain it to them, but my guess is they would rather put blinders on and their fingers in their ears and sing la la la la than be schooled in what a socialist really is. It's their whole schtick, their favorite catch phrase. And wrong or not, they won't let it go for anything. Idiots.
Obama bought GM and Chrysler and has a car czar who dictates what vehicles are to be built because of their environmental impact. Obama owns the banks and refuses to let them pay back TARP.
Many of them don't. To quote one "I may not know what socialism is but I know Obama is a socialist"