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When I was in college, I worked for my parents at their scrap metal business 2 hours away and commuted, then I worked in radio, then I worked construction and I even worked as a cop during my 5 years of undergrad. My parents owned their home, and as a result of working to compensate for that, I had too high an income to qualify for any Stafford loans, and I only got one pell grant, one semester. Now a bunch of liberals are SCREAMING about the GOP wanting to cut their loans. WHY DON'T THEY DO WHAT I DID AND GET A GODDAMN JOB WHILE pennsylvania COLLEGE?
Michael - my parents were not well-off. My dad was literally a garbage man in those days, and they were barely making their bills. They didn't even want me working as hard as I did during college, but they couldn't figure out how to get student loans and I just didn't bother. I enjoyed my jobs. That's what a liberal will never understand -- GO TO WORK... you might just find out you like what you're doing.
My ex used his GI bill to get thru pharmacy school then, worked 6-7 days a week living very meagerly and saving every cent to put himself thru med school. He ended up an anesthesiologist and owed less than 30k when he was done. Conservatives tend to want to do things for themselves and see the struggle of achieving their goals as being just as important as their goals themselves, and I admired him more for having put himself through it than I did for the title he had struggled to acquire. It's called grit. Libs have none.
That is not true. There is educated people and uneducated in both parties. But a liberal will have to be smart enough to get a loan. You have to have a higher than average GPA. If you are not too smart and you are rich or your daddy is rich and has friends in high places then you are fine no matter what party are you. The GOP just wants to make sure the bulk of the wealth of this country continues to be distributed to the top 20% of the population, so they want to do away with their loans and tax their scholarships. It is all a matter of greed. The top 20% have been successful in influencing policy making to keep controlling 93% of the financial wealth. While the bottom 80% shares only 7%. It is just greed and monopoly. The only difference between libs and contards is that Libs want to live and let live. Cons want to have a poor slave class by keeping salaries low and prices high. Libs have more benevolence toward others while Cons do not. You said that you worked for your parents, that means they were in business and they stayed in buseness because they made money, other wise they would not have stayed in business. We did the same thing. We did not qualified for anything and my parents put everyone through college including cousins. But we are Democrats. There is benevolence among the members of that party. I have belong to both parties and can make a judgment based on my experience. Think why you worked for your parents. We had a tax preparation business. And your parents were able to deduct your salary in his income tax. So, they had a double whamy return. They probably deducted your upkeep too by keeping your salary low for the IRS but giving you all the money you would ever need. Even your car was a business deduction. @Michael: You said your father was a garbage man, which he had a union job with benefits if he worked for a city. I knew a garbage man 30 years ago who is still collecting $3000 per month in retirement paid by the city. So, your father was a little more well off in those days. My husband an engineer was not as lucky as to work for the city.
I both got loans AND worked my way through college. A loan for education is one of the best investments you can make. While I'm not quite a lib, I'm by no means a con or a fan of the GOP. Still, this is a dumb generalization based on false notions that libs don't want to work, expect handouts, etc. It's pointlessly portraying people of a different outlook as your enemy. Anyway, the loans, if they fuel a future generation's credit score and help to build their earning potential are an excellent means to bolster tomorrow's economy with effective earners. While our culture has become somewhat self-indulgent and irresponsible with credit, I believe we're currently becoming informed on those things... And, very quickly. The loans should not be abused. And, I'd like to see more intense personal financial management courses offered as requirements to receive them. Help the kids form a game plan on how they'd like to pay the loans back, with comparative charts on the earning potential offered in their prospective fields of study, etc. Anyway, your premise, while laced with reasonable frustration, is based on something that is just not entirely true...
Under no circumstances! you spot a school coaching is not any assure which you will make it massive. I admit that it advantageous helps yet there are a number of college grads working as Servers and Bartenders etc. Now we can look at some very wealthy Democrats that have not have been given college tiers, the late Steve Jobs, bill Gates etc. there's a correlation notwithstanding it particularly is fuzzy. the reason it particularly is fuzzy is via the fact working to get a level tutor a level of ambition and persist with it. the comparable features that make non De-greed earners powerful. So is the correlation between wealth and coaching or wealth and ambition? Proud Vet (No degree)
I worked 42 hours a week at a electronic manufacturing company while in college until they outsourced all operations to China, making my skills that were quite valuable at the time, useless. Sometimes I had to skip doing homework or studying for a test to work. So many jobs I had to quit because they promised me they would only give me a certain amount of hours then wanted me to come in constantly when I had educational priorities to catch up on because they had be working too many hours the previous weeks. After that I worked on a farm while going to school full time. I don't really know what you mindless drivel is about other than the the usual mindless nonsense we are used to getting from you.
It's rhetoric. The reason Liberals tend to have a college degree is that Conservatives are older. When they were young, only 10% went to college. Now 50% of the young go to college. What I've seen is that the dumb down college to the level of High school from 30 years ago.
Have you been through the trailer parks in our country? You will see the uneducated, and those that suck off the system and fall under the republican umbrella. Wake up buddy. My family has always worked their way up and I attended college,..(Santorum would call me an elitist snob) and we are dems all the way. We also arent bigoted no minds like others. We evaluate people by their deeds not their race. I care not if you are gay or straight, black or white. I do not assume I am better than another because I have a bible in my home. I am a humanitarian and that my friend is something I am proud of. It is not our fault that your republican candidates arent worthy to be elected president. It is not our fault yet I feel the republicans are bitter about their choices. Sorry you should have elected people that are worthy. Not our fault! I am also a liberal and I am proud of Obama and what he has accomplished and had to live with with all the bigotry out there. P.S. You cannot speak for the liberals I am sure you do not associate with a liberal in your little world and btw I worked my way through university my friend. So Stfu
Totally not true. Working or not thru college is done by all regardless of your political beliefs. Painting people with labels without proof or sources is just hot air. It is dumb to say students who get loans are liberals or whatever. It is ideas like this that make us trail other countries in education.
False conservatives end up in student loan debt as frequently as liberals as long as you adjust for the higher numbers of liberals attending college in the first place.
First of all, you need to calm down and stop virtually screaming at people and using foul language at them. For someone who is supposedly educated past elementary school, you come off as very immature and rude. Secondly, assuming that liberals don't work through college is ridiculous. Some of us had to work and some of us were lucky enough to have full scholarships. I had to get loans AND work to pay for my education. I went to a private conservatory that was very expensive. Using your logic, I should have just given up a potential career in music and told them thanks but no thanks when I was accepted into the school, right? How stupid of me to want to go to one of the best schools when I could have gone for the cheaper option.