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Please no ignorant racist people. This is a serious question. I saw a picture of an illegal immigrant holding a sigh demanding free health care, taxless jobs, food and housing, and at the bottom it said You owe us America. But I am curious what America owes? I would just like to hear it from both sides, so I can try to have a better understanding of what is going on, and if the demands are just or not.
Jeff, you make a good point. Which is why I am trying to understand. So many Americans think that they owe immigrants nothing. It's the very few that think we should help that I want to hear from. I know that no matter how I word it, it will come out sounding racist, but it is not meaning to. I am just trying to see somebody elses point of view. Somebody that sees it from the other end of the spectrum.
I guess in better wording, I should have asked, DO illegal immigrants feel America owes them something? And, if so, why? <--Is that as bad? If I knew the answer to the why, I might be able to understand better what they were feeling and going through, in order to make better choices when it comes to voting for rights for immigrants. I feel the process is way too tough and it gives people no choice but to come here illegally. Do you think that if the process was made to be easier, that more people would try to do it the way America wants it?
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I don't see what the problem is taking away birthright citizenship, considering every other country harsher laws against illegal immigration. Also for the most part, most illegals in the country are from South of the border of the US, considering just how close it is to our country than any other one beside Canada, however Canada isn't in a bad condition as Mexico. Why does the US has to take crap that all the other countries don't? Why should all the US citizens suffer because illegals are killing are wages, by accepting every job for a low wage which in turn just decreases job wages every where. Our country is already going in a downward spiral and it does not help that 15-20 million people want to come here and further progress it in that downward spiral.
I don't know but what was the saying they had a long time ago "Give us your poor, your tired, your huddled masses longing to be free..." these "illegal immigrants" are seen as criminal but how do you see someone who just wants an education, a better life, a better future a criminal. Some of these illegal immigrant just want to achieve the American dream, and its difficult to attain legal status in the US (I think) because they would have to go to through this long process. Imagine yourself in another country, and all you want is a better future, wouldn't you ask for a piece of your own bread even if its crumbs? If it was made easier than there will be less illegal immigrants. So people can stop complaining.
Because all the latinamericans are like that, they think they are poor because someone else folk. Its not my intention to be racist, but i am studing politic science and all i see about latin america is about welfare and public spend. They have 30% of natural resources and do nothing with that, they have no industrialisation and dont care about that, in their minds the goverment has the obligation to rescue the citizens and the politicians agree with them just to gain votes. So when they cross the borders they think the US is the same. For them being deceitful is a merit and you can see it in their culture. Latin America is burning down and its population have a smile in their faces.
First of all everybody deserves a shelter, sufficient food and good health care and if anybody wants any other luxuries other then those basic needs then he needs to work hard for that, there is no such thing as illegal immigrant,its just a line we have drawn in our heads to divide us further. you will see in history that land doesn't discriminate between those who live upon it, it is us who make things the way they are and what goes around comes back and hits us one day, nothing remains the same. thousands of years from now there might not be a nation by the name USA , UK, China or any other country but there will still be the same land with a different name and a different legitimacy among the people who live on it.
Brad B just summed it up for me. Illegals in America already get way, way too much. As for Jeff P, there's nothing racist about the question, you loser. Don't get me wrong...I'm all in favor of LEGAL immigration. That's what America was built on. I don't care what race or religion they are. If they're legal--help 'em out. If they're illegal--kick 'em out! If that makes me racist, please understand I am an equal opportunity hater.
Hi there. You asked for "no ignorant racist people" but your question is itself both ignorant and racist. Just because you saw one picture of one person (do you even know if they were illegal?) doesn't mean others feel that way. You are making a gross geneeralization based on the person's race (aka, racism). Also, despite the protests of many people these days, immigrants put lots more money INTO our economy than they take out of it. This is a fact you can check for yourself. Thanks & have a good day.
I don't have a clue what america could own them . i do know that i do not like the way they come to this country and live off the welfare programs i know a girl she is in the states illegally she does not work cause she don't have a SSC , yet she get food stamps and welfare money for her kids so now she is having another child cause it adds to her monthly check and food stamps . am to think people like me and you have to work all our lives and pay taxes to support people like her . i would like to sit and get laid all the time to have kids and get money for it how about you ?
From this picture you saw, you could tell the person was an illegal immigrant. Please tell me what the telltale signs were. And then, tell me how you know how they all feel.